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Question 283 by JCpilipinas Question 283 by JCpilipinas
CJ: Dude, first of all....the comic is meant to be spoken by Mindanao, not me.

Second, this is not an attempt to justify the killings done by any group.

All I'm saying is that for centuries, the Filipino-Muslim group has been left to struggle on their own. And with this issue over Sabah, we have seen our government literally abandon them (in fact, you can say they even sided with the Malaysian government). It's like, abandoning your own brother. Nakakahiya, sobra. Tinuring nilang parang hindi Pilipino ang mga kapatid nating Muslim, hindi pinakinggan ang mga hinanaing at hinayaan na lamang mamatay doon. Nakakainis lang. Tignan mo, napapatagalog ako sa sobrang kunsumi. Pasensiya na dahil may nabasa akong lathalain na sobrang nakakahiyang isipin na sinulat ng isang Pilipino. punyeta.

*inhale., exhale*

The government is surrendering the sovereignty of our country to foreigners. This can be seen not only with the Sabah issue. If you've heard of the VFA (Visiting Forces Agreement) of the Philippine government with the USA, and use it as a justification to ship kawaii USPh I will probably slap you if we meet. I will also bring all my friends and tell them what you did and I'll watch them slap you too. Basically, the VFA gives the US freedom to use our territory for their military purposes whenever, wherever and however they want. This is what led to the USS Guardian destroying the Tubbataha reef. For those who don't know, the Tubbataha reef is supposed to be a protected area accessible only to local small-time fishermen. And yet, since the US has a need to increase their military presence in the area (for those slow ones, it's because of the US-China dispute) they sent their big warships crashing into our places.

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Okay so uhh....from the Sabah issue => US Imperialism. Sorry, I rambled. It's 3AM here I can't control what I type anymore. :U

Anyway, I'm so done with how this Sabah dispute is being taken in this fandom. I am honestly disappointed. I can probably forgive Malaysians and Sabahans for having a negative view to the Sulu Sultanate's group but for f*ck's sake, when Filipinos abandon their own brothers it just pisses me off. Alam ninyo ba na hindi lang ang Sultan ng Sulu ang pinaglalaban ito? Pati ibang mga Tausug, at sa tingin ko, at least halos lahat ng ibang grupo ng Muslim sa bansa (seeing as even Anonymous Philippines has taken action). Buti pa yung mga Muslim, nagkakaisa. Eh tayo?

articles you ought to read (I would too, tomorrow, I need to sleep first):
Aquino committing treason – Anakbayan


On the question of Philippine sovereignty over Sabah


*I will update this later, my favorite news site is down at the moment. :U *



CJ: I have answered nearly 300 questions anyone has ever thrown at me in this account, but for once I would ask you..

Why are people ALWAYS blaming the Filipino-Muslims?
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Kram24 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2015
Had it crossed anyone's mind whether the Sabahans want to rejoin the Sulu Sultanate again, or better yet the Philippines? Seeing the current state of Sulu, Mindanao,  the Muslims in the Philippines, and the country as a whole is rather uninviting for the Sabahans. Plus, Malaysia may or might have a grip on the government. Puppets. -_-
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coolalexia Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Cry forever 
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Cupcake08Animator Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist

Answer to your question: Because they think about Muslims like Americans:

Hijab, Turban = Muslim = Terrorist = Evil people that should be left to DIE


...Let me join you on that slapping fest...
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Cris-Ibarra Featured By Owner May 2, 2013
Good Lord.
Let's just trust the nation's father guys.
Kung alam ng mga Kiram na alam ng mga Malaysians na nangungupahan lang sila, bakit sila susugod?
At ang head daw ng Kiram ngayon ay hindi ang totoong succesor, hindi daw siya ang recognized sultan ng national gov't. (man, i hate talking about politics.)
Una sa lahat kasalanan nila 'yon (no offence. And I love muslims kase mga kapit bahay ko sila and they smile at me kahit kami lang ang Kristyano sa BLK **.)
At kung sinagot natin si Kuya China, babatukan lang tayo ng malakas, bro. Peace talk nalang.
No offence, dre.
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Brisingr-Arget Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I really don't know what to say... so I'll fave this instead.
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originalnameless Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ang nangyari d'yan bro, ibinigay ng Sultan ng Borneo sa 'Pinas ang Sabah. Nu'ng time ng British invasion, hindi nila kinilala ang karapatan natin sa Sabah. Tapos pagkalipas ng maraming taon, nagkaroon ng treaty na hindi involved ang 'Pinas kaya nagkaroon ng confusion kung kanino talaga 'yan

But Malaysians pay rent to the Kiram's, ibig sabihin kinikilala nila na umuupa lang sila du'n.

Duwag kasi si Noynoy eh, binully tayo ng China, tiklop! Tapos ngayon pinapatay na 'yung mga kababayan natin doon, sila pa gustong kasuhan. Balak nla arestuhin 'yung mga sangkot daw but Nur Misuari warned them there will be chaos if they do so. Ang mangyayari tayo pang mga Pinoy ang magakkalaban-laban dahil kinakampihan ng gobyerno natin ang ibang bansa

Ang tanong kasi du'n: MAY PLANO BA SI NOYNOY SA SABAH BEFORE NAGKAROON NG GULO? ****wala**** Hindi kasali sa priorities niya tapos ngayon, when they rightful owners take actions, sa kanila pa babagsak ang sisi? Kung tinulungan niya sila to diplomatically talk about it eh 'di wala sanang gulo :no:
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013  Student General Artist
CJ: One word, yo......Noynoying.

When he was campaigning, he says "Kayo ang boss ko". And now his boss are the US and any other powerful countries..
:U
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originalnameless Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yep. Buti pa 'yung kapatid niya, kahit anong isyu pinapakialaman. Nonsense nga lang haha
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AmonKillian Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
hindi po ako nagbabasa ng dyaryo or nanunuod ng news ngaun but,, when i saw this, i was like,, what the hell??
nagiging tau-tauhan tlga gobyerno natin *tsk tsk* i hope this (our Muslim bro's actions at Sabah) can bring a change.
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013  Student General Artist
CJ: Though I still think Kiram's actions are too extreme, I guess extreme measures are needed just to get our message to pass through PNoy's thick head.

Like the UPM student's suicide....if it wasn't for her death, the government would still shrug off the issue about tuition hike (they still do, in my opinion).
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AmonKillian Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
yeah,, extreme,, lalo pa yan sinusulsulan ni Nur Misuari. haays.. pero sana,, makita ni Pnoy ang point. but i think he wont get it anyways XD

ayan,, isa pa yang isyu na yan~! tsk tsk... dumadami nagpapakamatay ngaun dahil jan. pero madami na rin ang nagsuicide noon pero ngaun lang umaksyon ang gobyerno. sana dagdagan nila scholarship programs nila para sa mga hirap di ba?? ah gravitea tlg..
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BeeTrue Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013  Student Artist
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I don't think the filipino-muslims are the only victims here. What about the sabahans? or the rest of the filipinos? I mean, it seams the only people who are being heard are those in the government. I mea, COME ON PEOPLE! What about the ones who actually LIVE in the land....yeesh.
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013  Student General Artist
CJ: I know that. But in our society, the Filipino-Muslims have been oppressed for far too long, I am merely trying to give their side of the argument. I never said Sabahans weren't a victim in this situation too, nor the rest of the Filipinos.

And like what you said, only the people in the government are the ones being heard. I would personally like to see the Malaysian and Philippine government consult the Sabahans and Filipino-Muslims respectively. From what I see, both are just trying to take action that would benefit themselves .I mean, for the Malaysian government, keeping Sabah as their territory is important since it gives them more land and resources. And as for the Philippine government, well most specifically our president Aquino, is trying to stay at a good side of the Malaysian government since members of his clan (Cojuanco-Aquino) owns properties and investments there.

You may or may not agree with me, but in my view, every single action done by the two government was just about money and not their citizens.
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BeeTrue Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2013  Student Artist
and don't forget delaying the elections cause as soon as they come round, whoever's in charge is out! unless the other choice is worse....
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2013  Student General Artist
CJ: Well sure, that too....o3o
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raniellkraken Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013
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Tausugs are real badass, man! The rest of us Filipinos should learn a thing or two from them.

These people stood against the Spanish colonizers and American Imperialists for centuries. They are warriors who remained unfazed to the faces of the guns and weapons which are obviously more advanced than their Kampilan and Bolos. They are not aggressive men who grabbed land for themselves; their honor lies on defending their own.

It wasn't their intention to wage war with Malaysian authorities. They just wanted to settle in Sabah because they can't live in Sulu anymore (one of the poorest provinces in the country). Circumstances put them in a situation where they have no choice but to put the matter in their own hands and fight till death to what they think is right.

I wish the Sabah conflict wouldn't end in more bloodbath. I hate to see brave men die while spineless cowards run this country....
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dinosaurusgede Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Sabahans angers are because they fear for their lives, the lives of their loved ones and the lives of the Sabahn that has been lost. We have to forgive Sabahan's distress and angers towards the situation regarding the Sulu Sultanate's claims...

Tausug people of Sulu was pity too... from the USA invasion, poor economy, to the stigma of Muslim = Terrorists. It's very sad...

I shall pray for the resolve of the conflict. May God protects everyone...
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Student General Artist
CJ: I understand the Sabahans' views, but when Filipinos actually disown their fellow Filipinos I just lose all my cool...e____e
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dinosaurusgede Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
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akosijre1 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013
people blame filipino-muslims cause they are different. sometimes people just need to put the blame on someone to be called right :c

when i read the news about this i got really mad at our president. and you know what, the filipinos in Sabah dont even expect any support from us, cause they know the government has given up on them :I I agree with everything ~xxlovelycutiexx just said. just because the US isnt there to protect our asses anymore doesnt mean we have stop doing something. I just feel angry and disappointed about how cruel and selfish this is.

sorry for my comment if i ever stomp on their opinions
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meirenka Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Student General Artist
Yeah, easy for you to say.

FYI, first those unfairly treated filipino-muslims tricked our men by using a white flag and shot two down.

Then they capture 5 policemen in Semporna and mutilated their bodies. As is chopped them to pieces, behead them and god knows what else. Heck, one of the policemen is my relative, just so you know.

And now they mere presence in Sabah is giving us Sabahans a whole load of terror and difficulties. Point made, I want to clarify that I didn't mean the whole filipino-muslim community, just the ones infiltrating my state, Sabah^^;

If you want to know why people blame them, this is why.
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2013  Student General Artist
CJ: Well, you know Ren...it goes both ways...Kiram already declared a ceasefire and yet the Malaysian government launched an all-out attack.

For the sake of everything good on earth Ren, stop being so one-sided especially if you're on my page. You're demonizing people.
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BeeTrue Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013  Student Artist
Ren..mind remembering that EVERYONE has a point of view.
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dinosaurusgede Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm so sorry Dik Wahyun...
My condolence for your relatives..
May Allah placed his soul in heaven.
May Allah protects you and your family..
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meirenka Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Student General Artist
It's okay, akak. It was shocking at first, but there's no point in me crying anymore, is there? I will remember your prayer, thank you for caring me.
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dinosaurusgede Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yang sabar ya Dik Wahyun...
There's not much I can do but pray for your safety... forgive me..
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akosijre1 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013
Oops i think i may have misinterpreted cj's question. Apparently what you mean is why people are blaming filipino muslims over sabah, while i was talking about how some people treat muslims bad in general.

Not saying that what the filipino muslims are doing are right ( or any killings there for that matter) cause it is certainly wrong. What they are doing is just worsening the situation and making people more angry.

Terribly sorry if you got mad at my comment. The rest of the comment was my concern with the government not giving a fuck to whats happening. I didnt mean to be disrespectful :|
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BeeTrue Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013  Student Artist
treat muslims bad in general? in this area? -.-"
where are you from again?
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akosijre1 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
what i meant from that statement is that Muslims are discriminated and therefore people sometimes treat them as lower class. And since we are called "A Catholic Nation" since most people living here are Catholics, other religions are sometimes not a priority :c Not all people are like this though, just the racist ones, and every country have some of those people.

I'm from the Philippines :u
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BeeTrue Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013  Student Artist
well, I live in Sabah and things are kinda the opposite, from what I've seen + heard. not catholics specifically but, yeah. I get what you're getting at.

And you want to talk about racism? I was bullied for over 50%, possibly 60%, of my primary school life, plus the whole of form 2 and some other bits and times just cause I'm white..I mean, COME ON. Don't you people appreciate the schools, hospitals and other stuff that were set up? yeesh.

I have a question? Why does the sulu sultan suddenly want a land that has wasted most of it's resources, is the poorest state in its country, and is, as I found out recently, filled with many, many, strange curses?
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2013  Student General Artist
CJ: Are you seriously saying that you're getting bullied just because you're white?

wow ha...wow.
:U
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BeeTrue Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2013  Student Artist
eeyup. form 2 sejarah. ooih "-.-
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akosijre1 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013
It is really sad how people just keep continuing the hate cycle. I mean why would people hate someone for being white or black or any thing different for that matter.

from what i heard from the news, it is because it is their home. And it's been pass on for generations. If they give up the land, all those things you have said can't be remedied.
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Student General Artist
CJ: The last statement I heard from the Aquino government was that Kiram's group should consider the well-being and safety if the OFWs in Sabah and return to the country.

Now, it would have been good if this was a legitimate concern for our countrymen, bu the thing is, the OFWs in Sabah had been for the longest time, vicyltims of human rights violations, discrimination, human trafficking, etc. And just now because of this dispute, Aquino suddenly cares about them? He's just using the OFWs in Sabah to cover up for his lack of action towards the issue.
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akosijre1 Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013
i dont remember the exact words but the statement did imply that the filipinos there should return because its safer. so does that mean they wont protect them as long as they stay

Of course. He just puts actions on known cases that media would pay attention to. And you know how our media is, only focuses on the fun stuff :T
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bloodybloom17 Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Awesome! Thanks for answering my question man!
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Student General Artist
Mindanao: You're welcome..
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xxlovelycutiexx Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Student Digital Artist
THANK YOU.

Ya. I'm actually going to make a rant about this on Pinoy-Culture because seriously I've seen soooo many Filipin@'s saying bad stuff about the Sultan, his followers, and of Muslims in Mindanao, saying that it's all their fault and saying, it's only their issues not the Philippines.

Hello? Sulu IS a part of the Philippines. The Sultan and the Muslims in Sulu and the rest of Southern Mindanao ARE Filipin@ citizens. The fact Aquino, the government, and many others are abandoning them saying stuff like it's not our problem and shrugging this issue off because they have their own local government that is also under the Philippines and are Muslim is ridiculous.

And you know what is even MORE of a stupidity among them? How they and people are so hell bent on claiming the Spratly's and with that they have the "U.S. support against China", but they won't even help their own brothers and sisters in Mindanao with lands we KNOW belong to them and they have every right of getting back, but aren't supported by their own President and government, fellow Filipin@'s, and hell in Aquino's eyes, the U.S. doesn't support them because what are they going to benefit from, their objective is with China and the rest of the Pacific they don't really care.

The whole thing just pisses me off.
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Student General Artist
CJ: Everything you just said, yes.

I find it really stupid that some people don't see this point. I mean like, the US is just obviously just using the Spratly's issue to send their warships in the area, and the government fully supports that. But since the US isn't concerned with this one and actually prefers that the SEA nations stand united in his favor then our government sides with the US, once again ignoring what is actually good for the Filipino citizens.
:U
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TheJeluMan Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Yea, conspiracies here say that a MP named Anwar Ibrahim hired these Sulus to post pone the election. But we have been warned to NOT believe these conspiracies and some idiot said about 700 Sulus landed at the capital of Sabah,Kota Kinabalu. So many lies. Lies everywhere!
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Student General Artist
CJ: Well, conspiracies here say that the whole thing was conducted by leftist groups to show that our president is indeed a spineless coward puppet of the US. I don't know if the leftist part is true but I'm sure that the puppet part is.
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TheJeluMan Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Same here all the leftist groups are saying that the whole thing is an act which is not true. If it was an act, the fallen policemen will just wake up like one those movies.
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Student General Artist
CJ: That's not funny at all, do you think this is funny? e_e
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TheJeluMan Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
It is not funny. Dam, sorry about that I was trying to translate one of the topics of our fellow MP. Some guy from the lefties group named Tian Chua claimed that this all was an act and as we all can guess, a few dozen or hundreds of people burned his picture and insulted him.
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sampaguitaxmaganda Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You're exactly right.

Who's that persongave an idea about Philippines being a Catholic Country (It's like saying that Philippines if for Catholics, it's unfair)? Can't we be like Indonesia's (You know, she has the most population of Muslims yet not a Muslim Country, which is why they live peacefully)?


May the Lord be with them
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dinosaurusgede Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Salamat Sampaguitaxmaganda :D

Indonesia achieved their independence because of many people from many religious background from Hindus, Buddhists, Confucians, Christians, Muslims, etc, like Albertus Soegijapranata (the first native Indonesian bishop and known for his pro-nationalistic stance, often expressed as "100% Catholic, 100% Indonesian"), Sisingamangaraja XI (Batak king, the defender of Batak religion), I Gusti Ngurah Rai (Hindu Balinese, our national hero), Soekarno (our first president, a Muslim and very proud of our Austronesian culture), and many more ^^

And the Asia's largest Jesus Christ Statue is in Manado, Indonesia. The "Jesus Blessing Monument" :D
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sampaguitaxmaganda Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, you guys are so cool!
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dinosaurusgede Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Philippines are cool too! ^^
During Namayan era, many traders felt at ease to trade on Philippines because their rights of religion, living and commerce are protected. ^^
That's why there's a lot of Chinese, Malays, Indonesians, Bruneians, Cambodians, Japanese and Arabian traders in Namayan Philippines.
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sampaguitaxmaganda Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Wow, that was coo.. I wish there will be an author who will write a book about this history (and everyone will be happy XD)
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JCpilipinas Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2013  Student General Artist
CJ: Well, it's not exactly about religion though it's partly rooted to it. Since they kept their independence, they kept their religion and so the Christianized Filipinos sort of grew apart from their Muslim brothers.

And since the country is predominantly Christian, the government usually caters only to Christian needs and the minorities are ignored.
:U
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